Switch Flashbang Stun to Disorient

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Adjust Flashbangs?

Adjust them roughly this way.
Adjust them with the PR.
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Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:03 am

The game has been moving away from instant stuns.
The only ones left that come to mind are pepper spray and flashbangs.

I'd like to see the time you're dropped on the floor by a flashbang lowered a lot, and replaced by the confusion and disorientation effect of the normal flash.
(Obligatory realism argument, this is more true to life)


This pull fixes one of the issues with flashbangs, but not the main one.
Against a dude with no sunglasses or earmuffs (or any type of helmet), the flashbang is a 10 tick knockdown. More than enough for security to cuff one or two people.
This lead to the time honored tradition of security flashbanging hostages. Admittedly I very rarely see this now.

I suggest two things here.
First, give a visual indicator to the person who is disoriented that they are disoriented. (Screen shake ala drunk?)
Second, lower the weaken() (the bit that drops you on the floor) considerably, and replace what's lost with confuse.

I've eyed the code and come up with these as possible numbers.
(None of this is a change to the total duration of a flashbang)

7 Tiles - Confuse 4, Blind 10
5 Tiles - Weaken 1, Confuse 8, Blind 10
2 Tiles - Weaken 3, Confuse 10, Blind 10

Eye Protection:
7 Tiles - Confuse 4
5 Tiles - Confuse 8
2 Tiles - Weaken 1, Confuse 10

Ear Protection:
7 Tiles - Confuse 4, Blind 10
5 Tiles - Weaken 1, Confuse 4, Blind 10
2 Tiles - Weaken 3, Confuse 8, Blind 10

Both Protection:
7 Tiles - No Effect
5 Tiles - No Effect
2 Tiles - Weaken 1, Confuse 2

I tried to make above numbers are more or less true to the old.
With the current system if you're missing eye prot it's 10 ticks of weaken, if you're missing ear protection the weaken drops with distance.

Thoughts, counterarguments, inarticulate screaming below please!

[edit] I tried to make a poll and failed, someone who understands forum pls help
Last edited by Fenodyree on Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:13 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:11 am

Also, grabbing own face to cover eyes when?

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Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:18 am

Suits me fine.

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Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:00 am

Could be fine, mayhap.

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Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:57 am

Seems well-thought out, and more balanced than the original (or the other proposed PR) flashbangs.

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